Cause it seems like he made much greater progress than he did under Kanans teachings. DAVE: Yeah. Well its the quick and easy path by definition. And I think thats the allure of the Dark Side is that youre gonna be given a lot of these abilities with much quicker returns. And so thats deceptive. You think oh Im getting more powerful, you dont realize youre kind of getting enslaved to that power and that idea of power and control. As opposed to like the discipline of learning a skill and taking time with it. Which is something that kids struggle with, you know. Like practice, practice makes perfect, you know. They dont wanna follow that. So they want an easy answer. So Ezras got the quick and easy answers and the challenge for him is hes had success applying those things to the betterment of the team. And even the team like Zeb is kind of like yeah, Ezra has saved us again. So you get this feeling that hes using it for good, you know. But that doesnt always work out in the end. PETER: So it seems like were like two or three years away from A New Hope. When are we gonna get some X-Wings? DAVE: Everybody wants X-Wings, you know. Its a tricky thing in Star Wars because now we have so many things going on across so many platforms. That, you know, when youre creating a show and youre able to create, you know, stories in Star Wars, I try to see well how can we make this different? So one of the choices that we made early on was that we werent gonna have X-Wings at least early on in the show. Weve done B-Wings. Now were doing Y-Wings. But Ive tried to stay away from a lot of the original trilogy kind of New Hope backbone stuff, because that, I want that to be clearly this is not that story. Were a different cell. That being said, if and when X-Wings do show up itll probably be awesome. Kiri Hart and I always talk about Empire of the Sun. http://richjulianedwards.redcarolinaparaguay.org/2016/10/05/a-breakdown-of-selecting-core-factors-in-career/We love the movie Empire of the Sun. And to me the X-Wing moment, this is probably a giveaway, will be like the Cadillac in the sky moment when the P-51s come to the camp where the kid is. It has to have that kind of feeling behind it. That youre so excited to see these things. Then they have value again. As opposed to just saying, oh look theres an X-Wing. You know, I want them to appear in a moment of oh my gosh, Ive been waiting for this. So PETER: I think the assumption has always been the show is gonna end before A New Hope. Will the show end before A New Hope or can it somehow continue past that like event? DAVE: Honestly you can engineer anything. Right? If you wanted to. But I think that in a lot of ways it would feel like a complete thing if it ends before A New Hope. So then youve told this piece of the story and then that is the story continues. And in a lot of ways you could also argue, so how do we connect Rogue One then as far as like kids watching the story unfold and can they watch this and then it goes into that? So theres been a lot of discussion about that with Rebels. One thing I am determined this time though is to finish. Thisll be a complete piece. A complete story that has the feeling of a big arc and a beginning, middle and end. And unlike Clone Wars which I got kind of abruptly cut from what I was doing, Kiri Hart and I are determined to make sure that this comes to a close. Simon Kinberg and I have talked from the very beginning when we first started working together, where do you want this voyage to go? One of the big things thats always concerned me is that you see in trailer and you noted Ezras powerful. Well where is that kid in the time of A New Hope? In the time of Empire Strikes Back? He does things Skywalker never did on the screen. You know, hes a capable warrior Jedi. Luke is more of a kind of a cerebral Jedi, you know? So we have to deal with that. PETER: So you do have a plan for why all these people arent mentioned? DAVE: Yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Weve had to. And its been important since the beginning to be working. Well it come off, will it work? You know, who knows? PETER: I hate to put you in a position DAVE: Its all right. PETER: But at the premiere of the season 2 finale, you said some things that gave me the impression that you shared the views of George Lucas and James Cameron that A Force Awakens didnt do enough to push the story forward. I was wondering, what are your thoughts about A Force Awakens? DAVE: Oh I think its great. I mean, I think its a remarkable achievement too. You have to think of just everything the film had to serve as far as not just Star Wars, but a fan culture, a global culture, a shift in the story of Star Wars from being this one mans vision and his company to kind of a global company and a broader vision. And I think that that, admittedly or not is gonna affect you as a storyteller. So I think J.J.
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